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to contrast that with a well known famous saying among lawyers that hard cases make bad law. in a case like this, with such extraordinary circumstances, around such an aberrant event, the best opportunities to pass meaningful legislation are not in the wake of these sort of crazy one off extraordinary events. what do you make of that? >> well, it is a real conundrum. on the one hand, holmes was right. you don't want extraordinary circumstances to create general law for average circumstances. but in another sense, this was not extraordinary. in fact, we've been living in something of a bubble. the fbi has done actually a fairly amazing job over the last decade of stopping many terrorist acts like when they occurred in other countries and europe and the middle east. and this was one that got through. but there are ways in which you could actually change laws to further enable the fbi. going back to michael isikoff's report. what if members of this mosque in boston had contacted law enforcement authorities under a new program and warned them that this fellow tsarnaev was looking a little errat
trying to escape law enforcement. here's how it played out. around 10:00 p.m. last night, the suspects robbed a store. they then proceeded to fatally shoot an m.i.t. security officer and hijack a mercedes suv. the owner of that vehicle was held hostage for half an hour while the two brothers pulled $800 out of an atm. they released the owner of the mercedes unharmed. police chased the suspects into watertown, where this shootout took place. the suspects exchanged fire with police and threw explosives towards them. at one point, tamerlan sarn ev got out of the car wearing an ied strapped to his chest and was shot by police. his body was run over by dzhokah tsarnaev as he fled the scene. at present the manhunt continues. the police are looking for a younger brother and a possible accomplice. let's bring in nbc justice correspondent, pete williams. this is a quickly developing situation. how many people are the police looking for right now? >> i think they're not sure. i think we can say probably three. dzhokah tsarnaev, the person who is the man with the white hat and the marathon bombin
considered as a possible hideout? >> well, as you know, chris, they started with a 20-square-block area. law enforcement suggests they've been through about 80% of that. we are looking for a needle in a haystack. and look, we know his brother took a lot of hits in the gunfight with law enforcement last night before he was killed. you might suggest that this 19-year-old man we're looking for, he may have been hit, too. so he could have crawled under a building someplace. he could be barricaded inside of a house somewhere by himself, or holding a hostage, or he may, just may have been able to steal another car and our worst case scenario and get out of town. once law enforcement finishes this search of this 20 square block, then they have to regroup and figure out what cars have been stolen in the area that he might have used to get away from, or did we miss him and do we go back again? and, chris, i know we're going into the weekend, but how long do you keep a city like this bottled up and tell everybody to stay inside? >> well, is there any way of tracking besides basically hard target, i me
, president obama praising law enforcement in trackinging down the suspect, late last night after authorities announced they captured their man, this is what the president had to say. >> boston police and state police and local police across the come mop wealth of massachusetts responded with professionalism and bravery over five long days and tonight, because of their determined efforts, we have closed an important chapter in this tragedy. >> nbc's kristen welker at the white house for us. what's happening at the white house today? >> no events on the president's schedule but i can tell you behind the scenes, i have been told by administration officials, the president will be in contact with his national security team when necessary to monitor the ongoing developments in this investigation. you remember when president obama spoke last night, craig, he said there are a number of questions that need to be anticipated, included what motivated these two young men to take these hape noeinous action and of course did they have accomplices? that is the question everybody wants answered now. i don't
of the resources from law enforcement and military on the ground and some we can see here. helicopters from police and 50 guardsmen and more military humvees coming in earlier and dozens of law enforcement if not hundreds and vehicles scattered across water and the city. is this enough based on what you understand they are trying to do at the moment? >> it's a tremendous deployment of resources and certainly you have to defer to the judgment of the officials on the ground if it's the right amount. obviously the more, the better in this type of situation. you have to look at the possibility as michael mentioned earlier that there could be additional devices placed around the greater boston area. you also have to look at any other potential components to what could be a broader conspiracy. we don't know the steps they took to first deal with him and try to get him to surrender if he is holed up and secondly to understand where there might be additional devices around the greater boston area and third, to identify any other individuals who might be in any way associated with the brothers is where the
exception under the miranda allowing law enforcement to interview him, making sure there are no other bombs, threats, perpetrators still out there giving the law enforcement flexibility to do the that prior to miranda and i think the court will interpret it broadly and give them the time they need to make sure that the public is safe. after that, he will have to be mirandized, doesn't mean the end of cooperation, but no basis yet to conclude they should be treated at enemy combatants. we're talking about an american citizen on american soil. there's no evidence that i've seen yet that they were a part of an al qaeda cell or directed by a foreign government. we're very far afield from a situation which is sort of the paradigm for enemy combatant status. that is, someone captured on the balg battlefield in a theater of war. resist these charges as an enemy combatant. the court has proven capable of supporting a terrorist constitution and i'm confident the justice department with all the evidence we've seen and a lot more we haven't can build a very strong case. >> congressman, at this point w
be illegal, anyway, he's an american citizen. the law bars trying american citizens in military tribunals, but you know, i think this is to some extent moot. a, because the administration has decided how they're going to proceed, its going to be in civilian court. and b, the limited nature of the interrogation at this point because of his condition. >> have authorities interviewed katherine russell? tamerlan's wife? we know we've seen her, she's gone back to the cambridge house briefly to apparently get some mail and other things. she is believed to be with her parents in rhode island. are they interviewed her to know how much she knew about his radicalization? >> they will. they very much want to. they want to talk to every member of the family. they want it talk to all his friends. they want to know not just the answer to that question, but fill in as many pieces of the puzzle as they can. what were they up to in the months leading up to the bombing, what did they do afterwards, did they talk about plans? were they in touch with other people? the quick answer to your question is we don'
through our civilian system of justice. under u.s. law the united states citizens can not be tried in military commissions. and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> tsarnaev now lies under armed guard unable to speak due to what may be a self-inflicted gunshot wound in his neck. authorities continue to question him, relying on written answers at this point. but his answers may be somewhat less important in his prosecution given the volume of evidence in the federal complaint, including description of video after the first explosion. "bomber two virtually alone among the individuals in front of the restaurant appears calm. he glances to the east and then calmly, but rapidly, begins moving to the west. away from the direction of the finish line. he walks away without his knapsack. having left it on the ground where he'd been standing. approximately ten seconds later, an explosion occurs." the complaint also contains details from the carjacking victim who says one of the suspects said t
as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist under u.s. law. united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions. this is absolutely the right way to go and the appropriate way to go. and when it comes to united states citizens, it is against the law to try them in military commissions. >> and it matters that the white house is treating the idea of holding an american citizen outside of the american legal system as what it is, which is crazy and unacceptable. and it matters that appears to be where americans stand on the issue too. when asked just last week in the midst of the aftermath of the boston bombing, with the images and videos of the horror there, the top of everyone's mind, which worries you more, the government will not go far enough to investigate terrorism because of concerns about constitutional rights, or that it will go too far in compromising constitutional rights in order to investigate terrorism. more people answered they are more worried about the government going too far. today is the first day of a big, important test for us as a country. a test of w
on boston bombing coming up this hour. when we return we're going to get into the law of this case. dzhokhar tsarnaev was formally charged today. he'll be prosecuted through the criminal justice system despite republicans who say he should be treated as an enemy combatant. >>> later, the russian connection. we have new details about the older brother, tamerlan, and his six-month trip overseas to russia, that area, as he became increasingly more devout in his religion and radicalism. >>> here in washington, the marathon bombings have already started to change the debate on things like -- you knew this was coming -- immigration. >>> finally, life started to return to normal this weekend in boston. i was up there as the slow healing begins. this is "hardball." as we say up there, "hardball." the place for politics. >>> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was of course, white house spokesman jay carney short by before 1:00 p.m. today making clear the boston suspect will not be t
jersey governor chris christie wants to make some of the toughest state gun laws in the country even tougher. >>> good morning from fenway park! it's monday, april 22nd, 2013! now here's "the daily rundown" with chuck todd! boston strong! woo! >> what a great way to begin what hopefully is a better week for everybody thanks to the baby giraffes, an improv group from boston. those good morning videos, you could be tomorrow's winner. let's get to my first reads of the morning. let's run through everything we've learned since friday night's arrest. federal prosecutors may file terrorism charges today against dzhokhar tsarnaev, the 19-year-old man accused of the boston marathon bombings. tsarnaev is under guard in serious but stable condition at a boston hospital with a gunshot wound to the neck. some investigators believe that wound may be the result of a suicide attempt before his arrest. he's now being questioned, but only for brief periods because of his medical condition and is responding mostly in writing because of the injury. investigators have been trying to piece together the e
ways. the fbi missed a lot of things as one potential answer or our laws do not allow the fbi to follow up in a sound, solid way. >> did the fbi fail? i would say they probably -- something slipped through the cracks for them. >> the fbi dropped the ball here, no question about it. >> they dropped the ball here. there is no doubt about it. >> if he was on the radar and they let him go, he's on the russians' radar. why wasn't a flag put him on mim? >> this is the fifth case i'm aware of where the fbi has failed to stop someone who ultimately became a terrorist murderer. >> all right. the right wing media and sometimes the not right wing media. the story right now today is that the fbi dropped the ball. and the reason for the allegations of ball dropping are that we now know the fbi questioned tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011 after russian authorities warned the u.s. they thought he may have connections to radical islam. after a thorough investigation the fbi found no evidence tamerlan was connected to any domestic or foreign terrorism activity and cleared him. this idea that because tamerlan wa
. but as the colonel said, because of that extraordinary collaboration and cooperation by all of these law enforcement resources and assets and more to the point people, professionals, who brought their "a" game, we have a suspect in custody tonight. >> the community stood strong. it was a call from a resident in watertown. we asked you to remain vigilant, and you did. we got that call and we got the guy. and so we can't thank you enough. you've done everything and more than we've asked. extremely proud of law enforcement today and what we've accomplished. >> this whole ordeal started monday with the bombing attack at the finish line of the boston marathon. three people were killed, more than 170 injured. the suspect's older brother died early friday morning following a shootout with police. the two men are also suspected of killing an m.i.t. police officer, 26-year-old sean collier, who was sitting in his patrol car. now, police hope that the surviving suspect will be able to give them some critical information about a possible motive and whether any more people were involved. nbc's katy tur has been
penalty, is that what you're saying? >> reporter: sure. because then he's got cooperating with law enforcement, but he's also lost his leverage by saying this. it is in his interest to be able to tell them something. >> you think a lawyer, michael, would have told him to hold out until he got a deal? >> reporter: absolutely. absolutely. the one thing a lawyer is going to try to do at this point is to save his life. the one way to do that is show cooperation by pointing the finger at somebody else or helping them find somebody else. look, i don't take these statements at face value, just, you know, just to be clear. you know, he could well be protecting somebody. clearly there were others who they were talking to. it's hard to imagine the two of them just simply became radicalized by themselves without any encouragement from anybody else. >> that surprises me, too. >> reporter: seems there was an accomplice in the plot. and also, we have the statements from the uncle who says there was somebody who radicalized the older brother. >> so let me thank you very much. >> reporter: that's
dead after a dramatic shootout with law enforcement early friday morning. his 19-year-old dzhokhar escaped on foot precipitating a shelter in place order for the entire boston area. but the much sought after armed and dangerous teen was found wounded and incoherent in a boat parked in the backyard of a suburban watertown home. discovered not by the hundreds of armed officers who had been searching for him for hours but by the home's owner, reportedly out for a smoke. with one assailant dead and the other in police custody, the people of watertown and the entire boston area expressed their enormous gratitude and sense of relief with spontaneous cheers and applause on friday night. the crisis is over. now the politics begin and this is where our responsibility in the media shifts. in the heat of the crisis, media take on the job of informational clearinghouse, keeping the public up to date, sharing critical information and get the information out right and fast. granted, those are goals that can contradict at times. now we must step back from the incessant drumbeat of breaking news t
the decision and, of course, i'm not second-guessing anybody. i did talk to a law enforcement officer over the weekend who, first of all, said, you know, it would have been much better for us all if this had been plotted out of a cave in afghanistan instead of, you know, an apartment in cambridge. >> one among us. >> yeah, one among us. but also he was saying not so sure about them shutting down the entire city and the message that that sends. you talk about copycats. the copycat said if i do something particularly heinous, i can hold an entire city hostage. >> one of the purposes of terrorists is to disrupt and forcing a city shut down and the rest, she used that end in addition to killing and injurying that you do. one of the reasons -- i don't want to second-guess the tactical decision to lock down boston. but i don't think this is something that if you will a scaleable or sustainable. >> no, we can't do this. >> imagine these guys hadn't been captured and all that. >> after what happened to the boston marathon in an internationally visible way. we were covering this all morning long. i
today to praise law enforcement and those involved in tracking tsarnaev down. >> americans refused to be terrorized. ultimately, that's what we'll remember from this week. that's what will remain, the stories of heroism and kindness, resolve and resilience, generosity, and love. >> authorities caught up with the suspect after a tip from a watertown resident. he was hiding in a boat parked outside a home. he is now in a boston hospital and nbc's ron allen is joining me from there. ron, with a good afternoon to you, let's get the very latest on his condition. are you getting word from the hospital or are they staying somewhat silent on that? >> reporter: absolutely silent, alex. they're basically saying ask the fbi, ask the police about that, and they are saying nothing as well. it's a very tight lid on top of any information about him so far today. that could change perhaps, but you have to understand and, of course, you do, that this is a very, very delicate and sensitive situation and so it seems unlikely that the doctors are going to tell us a lot about what his condition is, par
is the federal law version of what a bomb is, if death results, then that is a capital offense. the government could seek the death penalty. massachusetts is a state that does not have the death penalty. so the only death-eligible charge here would be the federal offense, even though four people were killed, the government alleges, the three victims of the. bog and the campus policeman. >> okay. in terms of the investigation, where does that stand now? what are the most prom neinent angles that are being pursued? >> these main questions are really the ones that have been true ever since the discovery of who these two people were. and the directions that they're headed in are really going to be the same here for weeks. so the investigation is not going to be, you know, taking sudden turns. the main questions are how and where did they assemble the components of the bomb. how did they buy them? where did they build them? were there any practices? secondly, what happened when the brother, tamerlan, the older brother who was shot to death thursday night, what happened when he went to russia last y
was shocked by her husband and brother-in-law's actions. >>> in dagestan, the boys' mother, still in denial. >> i am mother. i have -- you know, i know my kids. i know my kids. i really my kids would never get involved into anything like that. >> in the boston area, local police are now taking a closer look into a possible link between older brother, tamerlan tsarnaev, and a 2011 unsolved triple homicide. >>> and local police are also taking a look at what links there may have been. in canada, two men charged with plotting to blow up a passenger train between toronto and new york make their first appearances in court while on capitol hill senator charles grassley keeps raising the boston plot as he opposes the timetable for immigration reform. >> the tragic events that occurred in boston and the potential terrorist attacks of the u.s. canadian railroad are reminders that our immigration system is directly related to our sovereignty and national security matters. >>> and guess who is coming to dinner? the president hosts the women of the senate, senator kirsten gillenbrand is here to preview
significantly more complex. american law enforcement officials currently track terror networks by tapping into chatter, monitoring videos and reports of field agents, but even if the fbi is tipped off to potential american terrorists, there's are limits to what can be done. "the new york times" reports that after the tib questioned tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011, officials had quote no authority to watch him because they found no terrorism activity at the time. this scenario that an american could and would do this while flying under the radar raises serious questions regarding national security. the "washington post" writes the boston attacks might serve as a new model for terrorism in the 21st century. seeing how two kids with backpack bombs seem to have succeeded in putting a major u.s. city on lockdown, it may now dawn on al qaeda leaders that a series of small-scale attacks like this conversation the same impact as one spectacular mass casualty attack. through a combination of skill and luck, we've done well at preventing the next 9/11. preventing the next boston massacre might not be as
involvement. >> the reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. >> and in dagestan, the suspect's mother is adamant that her sons are innocent. >> what happened is a terrible thing, but i know that my kids have nothing to do with this. i know it. i am mother. >> joining us now from boston is nbc news national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. and frank silufo, director of the homeland security policy institute at george washington university. good afternoon, to both of you. mike, as the investigations continue both here and oversea, we understand that investigators are confident these brothers acted alone. even as their family members express utter bafflement. what are we learning about the larger case against these suspects? >> reporter: well first of all, this is looking, martin, more and more like a case of self-radicalization. now, nothing is conclusive and, you know, we're far from the end of this investigation right now. >> of course. of course. >> reporter: but the preliminary indicators, first, you have tsarnaev saying the
and a graduate of harvard law. good to see you, congressman. good morning. >> good to see you. >> the next step of this i guess the more serious step has come from four senators and one congressman so far who are calling for dzhokhar tsarnaev to be called as an enemy combatant. let me play what lindsay graham said about that. >> he should be designated as an enemy combatant and question him for intelligence gathering purposes and find out about terrorist organizations that may exist that he has knowledge of. >> congressman, you releaseded a statement disagreeing with that. why? >> i don't think there's a constitutional legal basis to treat him as an enemy combatanc. i don't see how we can do this constitutionally. i understand that senator graham would like to prolong the interview and we all want to get as much information as we can but there are limits to what we can do and those limits apply in a situation of an american arrested for committing a heinous act like this on american soil so i don't think there's a constitutional legal basis. i also agree with dan collins. there's a lot we can d
tobacco from 18 to 21. the new law would not prohibit people under 21 from possessing or smoking cigarettes. if passed, the measure would be the strictest limit on tobacco of any u.s. city. awesome. >> you kind of wonder when the mayor is going to pass a law that is going to require each new yorker to read at least 30 minutes of poetry. >> no. this is good. >> that one i would not expect to happen. >> this is what we need. we actually don't even need anybody buying or smoking cigarettes and getting sick from it and getting other people sick too. >> mika, can i point something out? >> sure. >> the matrix awards yesterday. women in communications. mike barnicle's wife introduced by mika brzezinski. >> oh, look at her. mika did a great job. and you know, ann did pretty damn well herself. >> ann was amazing. there's martha stewart. there were impressive women there. but i had the great honor of -- this is funny. i had the great honor of introducing ann. and they asked at one point for last year's matrix winners to stand up and barnicle stood up. >> i was wondering when mike barnicle
don't know all of the information that the law enforcement who, by the way, have done such a great job of putting this whole thing together, all of them, and i'd like to applaud them. nonetheless, that all is taking place and, yes, it was a planned attack. this wasn't anything by happenstance. you look at what we know now about some of the weapons and some of the activities that these people have -- and we still don't know yet -- it hasn't come out to us yet what training that they had and where they may have gotten that training and to whom may have trained them. i think they have truly done a good job of bringing it to the attention. >> "the new york times" found an m-4 assault rifle on the boat where the young suspect was hiding. i mean, where does a teenager get a weapon like that? >> reverend al, he may have gotten it at a robbery. it seems to be unknown whether they were taken at a robbery or purchased in a back alley. it will be interesting to see how they acquired them. your question also about the explosives is very interesting but the thing that sticks out to me about the bom
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